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the focus of this effort to reduce deficits now is on getting them, in the federal budget deficit to the range of 3% or so. that is what i mean when i say policymakers are not trying to get rid of the budget deficits. given the economic weakness, a little bit of deficit spending is probably not a terrible thing, at least in the eyes of some budget economists. i think there would be comfort in washington around 3% of gdp. getting there is a big challenge. there are problems with medicare and social security. they are facing big deficit situations. host: what motivates the creation of deductions? what about the other incentives? mortgage deduction it to encourage people to buy a home. guest: some of the deductions have been around forever, since the invention of the income tax. there has always been a deduction for interest that you paid. the government didn't think it could distinguish between mortgage interest and other kinds of interest. less interest is deductible now. some of the things are left over from the early days of the tax code. there is no magic about allowing people to d
the focus of this effort to reduce deficits now is on getting them, in the federal budget deficit to the range of 3% or so. that is what i mean when i say policymakers are not trying to get rid of the budget deficits. given the economic weakness, a little bit of deficit spending is probably not a terrible thing, at least in the eyes of some budget economists. i think there would be comfort in washington around 3% of gdp. getting there is a big challenge. there are problems with medicare and...
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it has no effect on deficit. it will have no effect on rescuing us and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the economy. >> stephanie: how many times can we -- can it be said and proven the deficits were caused by the bush tax cuts? >> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the fiscal cliff. this wasn't a campaign issue. no one even talked about it. >> stephanie: right. >> the idea that this is all obama's fault. it has nothing to do with the $3 trillion war paid for with taxes. >> stephanie: eric boehlert remains in the sidecar. we continue with right-wing world next on "the stephanie miller show." >> announcer: it's really weird but it's also the coolest thing i've ever heard in my whole life. >> announcer: it's "the stephanie miller show." that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they can
it has no effect on deficit. it will have no effect on rescuing us and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the economy. >> stephanie: how many times can we -- can it be said and proven the deficits were caused by the bush tax cuts? >> so obama created this whole fiscal cliff for an election issue. the amazing thing is no one talked about this during the campaign. it was the day after the election that suddenly d.c. and the d.c. press was abuzz about the...
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based off the simpson bowles commission, his own deficit reduction commission. he knows what our proposals are and what we are willing to do. what we don't know, chris, is what is the president willing to do? >> chris: well, let me ask you specifically about that. is it true, it is said -- we have never seen a piece of paper. is it true that the president offered to raise the eligibility age for medicare and slow cost of living adjustments for social security when you were in your debt talks in august of 2011? >> it was on the table. did the president agree to it... he may have been close to an agreement to it. if he agreed to it, we might not have this problem today. >> chris: is that on the table now. >> of course it is. >> chris: no, from their point of view? >> listen, there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is, what are they willing to do. >> chris: you are starting to have political problems, because you are starting to have splits in your ranks, i don't have to tell you you one of the top congressional republ
based off the simpson bowles commission, his own deficit reduction commission. he knows what our proposals are and what we are willing to do. what we don't know, chris, is what is the president willing to do? >> chris: well, let me ask you specifically about that. is it true, it is said -- we have never seen a piece of paper. is it true that the president offered to raise the eligibility age for medicare and slow cost of living adjustments for social security when you were in your debt...
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his own deficit reduction commission. he knows what our proposals are, he knows what we are throwing do. what we don't know, chris, is what is the president willing to do? >> well, let me ask you specifically about that. is it true, because it's been said but we've never seen a piece of paper; it true that the president offered to raise the eligibility age for medicare and to slow cost of living adjustments for social security what you were in your debt talks in august ofs2011. >> it was on the table. did the president agree to it? it may have been close to an agreement to it. if he agreed to it we might not have some problem today. >> is that on the table now. of course, it's on the table. >> no, is it on the table from their point of view. >> well, there are a lot of items on the table. the president knows what they are. the question is what are they willing to do. >> you are starting it have some political problems because you are starting to have some split necessary your ranks. i don't have to tell you one of the top
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the goal is not to get rid of the budget deficit. i don't think anyone who's involved in this process has a realistic hope of getting rid of the budget deficit. that they would love to get it down to a manageable level. when you talk about that, certainly opinions differ. you can make a big, big dent in the unmanageable part of the deficit with closing or reducing loopholes. >> host: do you expect to see them play a role in negotiation and talks? you mention how there is a group advocating for everyone of these deductions, people are used to getting them. could they end up on the chopping block? >> guest: they are on the table. republicans put them on the table and say we'd rather do this. but rather get rid of tax breaks that raise rates. in the end, you probably will see some of those. this is a process that will go on for the better part of the year. said during the process of negotiating a deal, you'll see some of those. >> host: john mckinnon is a reporter for "the wall street journal." we are talking about tax loopholes and ded
the goal is not to get rid of the budget deficit. i don't think anyone who's involved in this process has a realistic hope of getting rid of the budget deficit. that they would love to get it down to a manageable level. when you talk about that, certainly opinions differ. you can make a big, big dent in the unmanageable part of the deficit with closing or reducing loopholes. >> host: do you expect to see them play a role in negotiation and talks? you mention how there is a group...
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rajoy has warned it will achieve the deficit target agreed with the eu. he said he couldn't guarantee there would nobody further spending cuts and he would not have any doubts about using the ecb's omt program, though of course with yields where they are at the moment, they don't have to. in fact we spoke to patrick garvey a little bit earlier today that suggests that the risk-on theme for debt will continuum at least the end of january. remember, spain will have another batch of pre-funding for 2013 later this week on thursday. otherwise that's it for today's edition. coming up, the first "squawk box" of the week and countdown to the open of markets state side. whatever happens, we hope you have a profitable day. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. tis the pursuit of perfection. >>> good morning. today's top stories. fiscal cliff hanger. there's now less than a m
rajoy has warned it will achieve the deficit target agreed with the eu. he said he couldn't guarantee there would nobody further spending cuts and he would not have any doubts about using the ecb's omt program, though of course with yields where they are at the moment, they don't have to. in fact we spoke to patrick garvey a little bit earlier today that suggests that the risk-on theme for debt will continuum at least the end of january. remember, spain will have another batch of pre-funding...
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you made a comment that you did not believe anybody was interested in solving this deficit problem. that about knocked me out of my chair. i need you to explain to me and the rest of the people watching why you said that anthony g. to -- and i need you to expound on that. i will take my answer off the air. please ask mr. reid to not to be such an obstructionist and
you made a comment that you did not believe anybody was interested in solving this deficit problem. that about knocked me out of my chair. i need you to explain to me and the rest of the people watching why you said that anthony g. to -- and i need you to expound on that. i will take my answer off the air. please ask mr. reid to not to be such an obstructionist and
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that leaves us with the deficit of one. that is the deficit. sizable it is. this wl be the president's fourth for whh he is personally responsible, fourth deficit in excess of a trillion dollars. president obama wants to plug that trillion dollars hole by raising taxes on household incomes, as we all know that have incomes over $250,000. the top 2%. that would bring in $802 million, $82 billion. that's about 8% of that deficit. so does that suggest we have a tax problem or, perhaps, a spending problem? think about this. taxpayers making more than $250,000 representin the top 2% paid more than 46% of all texas. that would seem like a pretty fair deal to most of us, but the president says it is not fair. we don't know what that number is. how much should it be? and contrary to what the president would have you believe as he campgns untack sites all around the country and against the wealthy, he's doing a lot of that. the bush tax rates are not the root of our problems. in fact, individual tax payments rose, get this, $2,303,000,000,000 or 26%. over the past two
that leaves us with the deficit of one. that is the deficit. sizable it is. this wl be the president's fourth for whh he is personally responsible, fourth deficit in excess of a trillion dollars. president obama wants to plug that trillion dollars hole by raising taxes on household incomes, as we all know that have incomes over $250,000. the top 2%. that would bring in $802 million, $82 billion. that's about 8% of that deficit. so does that suggest we have a tax problem or, perhaps, a spending...
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i think we'll lay a framework for the deficit reduction we're going to do in the future. we're not going to cross the "and dot the ayes, but them we'll throw it in and fig that you are out. if we do those things i think we'll solve the uncertainty issue to a significant enough degree and our economy will start to gain traction. >> schieffer: may ayou'll be last word. >> i don't think we'll go off the cliff. i think politician of both sides understand it's just not worth it to bet the country on this. i do worry as they spend the next year or six months working out the details, there is going to be such extreme pressures on both sides not to make the hard choices we know has to be part of a real keel so i think it's important there are pressures to keep on so if they don't come up with solution through the committee there are ways to make sure we get the savings. the u.s. has the benefit of being a safe haven. we have more time than other countries but we will lose that confidence if we don't start to show our political system can function and approximately solve these pro
i think we'll lay a framework for the deficit reduction we're going to do in the future. we're not going to cross the "and dot the ayes, but them we'll throw it in and fig that you are out. if we do those things i think we'll solve the uncertainty issue to a significant enough degree and our economy will start to gain traction. >> schieffer: may ayou'll be last word. >> i don't think we'll go off the cliff. i think politician of both sides understand it's just not worth it to...
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on social security he denied any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said earlier last week social security hasn't added a dime to the dif is it. in fact, in 2012, it adds $160 billion of debt. there is more money in trust fund of social security to take care of it for 20 more years 25, more years. that means that pieces of paper in the trust fund with the treasury says we will pay you. but it doesn't have the money. it's spent the surplus in the past. that is simply a promise, from a treasury which is bankrupt. they won't touch social security. why? political implications. republicans are bad guys and they are the good guys. we don't want to balance it on back of seniors as if you are going to reform this and killing the budget. everybody agrees that is the one area where the treasury is hemorrhaging. impacting the seniors to get out of the drug company. that is absurd. the only way to attack this is to slow down the growth of healthcare. and the one area that you could really do that tort reform where a quarter of all spending in medicine is s
on social security he denied any effect on the deficit at all. durbin said earlier last week social security hasn't added a dime to the dif is it. in fact, in 2012, it adds $160 billion of debt. there is more money in trust fund of social security to take care of it for 20 more years 25, more years. that means that pieces of paper in the trust fund with the treasury says we will pay you. but it doesn't have the money. it's spent the surplus in the past. that is simply a promise, from a treasury...
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house republican leaders are calling for more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions in their latest effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the cuts would take effect over a decade's time. they're also proposing to increase the eligibility age for medicare and to lower the cost of living hikes in social security. meanwhile, house democrats are saying mf global play about thely misled finra on the firm's edges pose your the -- exposure to the european debt crisis. the comments are an addendum to the majority staff report on mf global. and research company comscore reports online sales reached nearly $20.5 billion during the first 30 days of the holiday season. tablet computers continue to drive online sales. and now we continue our "countdown to the closing bell" with lori rothman. lori: one hard luck chip maker pushing higher as it announces plans to raise cash. lauren simonetti at the new york stock exchange with this one. lauren? >> reporter: hey, lori. advanced micro devices, it's one of the oldest chip makers, and it's cash strapped. so, essentially, it's going to sell its campus, 58
house republican leaders are calling for more than $2 trillion in deficit reductions in their latest effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. the cuts would take effect over a decade's time. they're also proposing to increase the eligibility age for medicare and to lower the cost of living hikes in social security. meanwhile, house democrats are saying mf global play about thely misled finra on the firm's edges pose your the -- exposure to the european debt crisis. the comments are an addendum to the...
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we have seen them run the deficit . medicare. when you see the american people paying on average. 115 million a year and getting something 300 mill or 300,000, benefits in their life. we have to do something about the fee for service program and get it a defined benefit and we have to reform and preserve mandatory spending programs. >> one of the things you are best at as a communicator of the republican party. what do you tell people who are worried about republicans or democrats might do in congress that would put their security in jeopardy? >> first and foremost, we are not talking about making change for current seniors or those 10 years from going in. but we have to do something for someone like myself who is 51 or those programs will not be there. we are talking 10-12 years of solvencey between social security and medicare. we have to be adults and leaders and say we have a program and we'll bring viable solutions to future generations. >> we are grateful you joined us this afternoon. thank you, congressman west. >> thank y
we have seen them run the deficit . medicare. when you see the american people paying on average. 115 million a year and getting something 300 mill or 300,000, benefits in their life. we have to do something about the fee for service program and get it a defined benefit and we have to reform and preserve mandatory spending programs. >> one of the things you are best at as a communicator of the republican party. what do you tell people who are worried about republicans or democrats might...
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want to get rid of the budget deficit. certainly, opinions differ. they can be a managing part of the deficit. >> do they play a role in negotiations and talks? there is a group advocating for every one of these deductions that people are used to getting. could they end up on the chopping block? >> definitely. >> there is also a link to see more at our website for the gop proposal. we are going live to the house. a requirement that financial restitution set of privacy notices. for what purpose does the gentlewoman rise? >> i move to suspend the rules and pass the bill h.r. 5817. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. caller: h.r. 5817, to provide an exception to the annual privacy notice requirement. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the rule, the gentlewoman from west virginia, mrs. capito, and the gentleman from california, mr. sherman, each will control 20 minutes. the chair rebling nices the gentlewoman from west virginia. mrs. capito: thank you. i ask that all members have five legisl
want to get rid of the budget deficit. certainly, opinions differ. they can be a managing part of the deficit. >> do they play a role in negotiations and talks? there is a group advocating for every one of these deductions that people are used to getting. could they end up on the chopping block? >> definitely. >> there is also a link to see more at our website for the gop proposal. we are going live to the house. a requirement that financial restitution set of privacy notices....
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so i think what the white house is signaling is that at a minimum, any deficit package has to include this immediate february and march debt ceiling that we're going to hit. >> is jack lew the current chief of staff and former budget director the top candidate to be treasury? what is your best guess? >> he appears to be the frontrunner from everything you see and read and hear and he is a -- i've known him a long time. he's an accomplished guy. he knows these issues perfectly. he has worked in the financial community and has a sense of that and vice versa. and so i think he would be a it terrific choice. >> we should say there are a couple other people who have been rumored to being vetted. roger altman, former treasury official, larry fink, be erskine bowles. this what is alan simpson, erskine bowles' partner in the deficit commission, had to say about that possibility last week on the show. >> he said he would be very pleased to do that. he shared that with me personally, as long as they move the treasury department to north carolina, to charlotte. i don't think -- >> he's worked so
so i think what the white house is signaling is that at a minimum, any deficit package has to include this immediate february and march debt ceiling that we're going to hit. >> is jack lew the current chief of staff and former budget director the top candidate to be treasury? what is your best guess? >> he appears to be the frontrunner from everything you see and read and hear and he is a -- i've known him a long time. he's an accomplished guy. he knows these issues perfectly. he...
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brings our long-term deficits down. tough spending savings is part of that, and invest in things that matter to the american economy, like infrastructure, and getting americans back to work. we think we can do that. we have a good chance, and it's very important. and i think we'll get there, david. >> do you think we'll get a deal by the end of the year? >> i do. because the only thing standing in the way of that is a refusal by republicans to accept that rates have to go up on the wealthiest americans. and i don't really see them doing that. >> the idea that they have signalled something significant for them, which is -- >> what is that? >> putting revenue on the table. >> it's welcome that they are recognizing that revenues are going to have to go up. but they haven't told us anything about how far rates should go up, how far revenues should go up, who should pay higher taxes. >> republicans have said that no republicans will vote for a tax rate increase. do you think they are just bluffing? >> i can't tell you what t
brings our long-term deficits down. tough spending savings is part of that, and invest in things that matter to the american economy, like infrastructure, and getting americans back to work. we think we can do that. we have a good chance, and it's very important. and i think we'll get there, david. >> do you think we'll get a deal by the end of the year? >> i do. because the only thing standing in the way of that is a refusal by republicans to accept that rates have to go up on the...
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david, how much of the deficit, if we let the bush tax cuts sunset, how much of the deficit goes away? >> well, a significant percentage. >> like three quarters of it. >> it's not a good thing to do. it's going to push us back. >> when is it a good time? >> we need a down payment of both revenue and spending reductions, but we need to achieve four to five trillion over ten years through a grand bargain and we have to make sure that we're going to achieve a lot more than that beyond the ten years because we have 10,000 people a day retiring. health care costs are still out of control and we have to look long-term. that's why we say debt to gdp. >> somebody just sent in a really good question. that is with the president's health care plans, with obama care, does that change the debt to gdp in terms of taxes going up? >> it makes it worse. >> it's already going up. >> the affordable care act expanded cover an to 36 million people. it did not do enough to control costs. there are positive aspects of it, but according to the chief actuary of medicare, it's estimated to cost $12 trillion mo
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there were deficits, unemployment, just like it was today, horrible. but he made a statement that changed everything. it was this. i'm going to keep my promises and if i don't keep my promises, get me the hell out of there. we want to see more politician do this. make all these promises and don't follow through. if they did that, i have a thing called accountabilitycampaign.com where you say what your promises are. and add a small paragraph, i will do it my first year, start it my first year and tell you why i couldn't or resign. >> so you can with the accountability campaign you want to encourage transparency. >> full transparency and accountability. if my ceos or i myself didn't do what i promised or delivered i shouldn't have my job. get me out of there. la guardia did that. he reacted and had results within six months his results started. fabulous and by gosh the guy did what he said. >> what message do you think the president is not getting from the business community? >> you are not keeping your promises. that's why we are so upset. when he start
there were deficits, unemployment, just like it was today, horrible. but he made a statement that changed everything. it was this. i'm going to keep my promises and if i don't keep my promises, get me the hell out of there. we want to see more politician do this. make all these promises and don't follow through. if they did that, i have a thing called accountabilitycampaign.com where you say what your promises are. and add a small paragraph, i will do it my first year, start it my first year...
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that shortages would come in since two thousand and nine it's become clear that those deficits going to be pushed back by several years not just because of the crisis you also need to consider the gazprom is pushing ahead with south stream which is also going to. bring in rival capacity set to lose out to south stream on the basis that it is far more the just could be logistically complex as. capital explains the lack of supply and the like uncertainty over what works what contrail will be the main source of that gas and also it requires money many more countries and transit transit countries so complex to political complexity is. dealing with deal with just one source of gas there's russian gas and one supplier which is gas from so in some way it's much more convenient to deal with one company. so does that actually mean that the champagne bottles will be popping for gas problem and south street i think it's extremely unlikely in fact i think they almost preferred it was going ahead or at least the sort of the the logical reasons for it to exist were still there in as much that it w
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. >> that is erskine bowles, who along with alan simpson shared the deficit reduction commission a couple of years ago. they are both in town trying to pound a sense at into elected leaders. evan thomas has been out of town promoting his book, "ike's bluff." terrific christmas present. >> thank you. >> as i recall, we were having the same composition we are having now. >> like groundhog day. talk about bluffing -- they will be complete unreasonable until the last second where they agreed. while they are bluffing, we could go over the cliff. >> where are we headed, mark? >> one side says that raising tax rates is an example, the other side says we will not balance the budget on the backs of students and seniors without asking those who make as much as i do not to pay another diamond. we are in the chest thumping a stage of this negotiation. we are interested in the product rather than the process. the process does the fact of the product and you don't want hostilities to make the final product unreachable. >> nina, there were a bunch of c.l.'s in town saying please do something so we can p
. >> that is erskine bowles, who along with alan simpson shared the deficit reduction commission a couple of years ago. they are both in town trying to pound a sense at into elected leaders. evan thomas has been out of town promoting his book, "ike's bluff." terrific christmas present. >> thank you. >> as i recall, we were having the same composition we are having now. >> like groundhog day. talk about bluffing -- they will be complete unreasonable until the...
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there is an interesting coalition, if you will, of very conservative deficit hawks and very liberal deficit hawks, if you will, who might come together and say, you know what, let the country go off the cliff. lack at those five-year projections. isn't this about short term versus long term? what do you say and what do you think your members would say? >> the best thing is to do something our spending problem and barring anything else, doing the automatic cuts that congress promised last year when they raised the debt ceiling would be better than doing nothing. it's separate from the ougautomc tax increase that happens on january 1. our preferred strategy here would be to accept the sequester now knowing that congress is not going to do something more rational. they're not going to take on more fundamental spending reforms and push off increasing taxes. and let's have a ration conversation about fundamental tax reform in the first six months of next year. nothing congress does in this panic is going to be rational public policy regardless of ideology. >> isn't it fair to say no matter what,
there is an interesting coalition, if you will, of very conservative deficit hawks and very liberal deficit hawks, if you will, who might come together and say, you know what, let the country go off the cliff. lack at those five-year projections. isn't this about short term versus long term? what do you say and what do you think your members would say? >> the best thing is to do something our spending problem and barring anything else, doing the automatic cuts that congress promised last...
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altered the landscape quite radically before two thousand and eight it was presumed there would be a deficit of gas the demand would go up and the there would be shortages since two thousand and nine it's been clear that if that deficit is going to come it's being pushed back by several years you also need to consider that. faces a rival in south stream which is gas problems plan to bring gas from russia through to the southern corridor now this is actually progressed much further it's a much more sort of viable project. from in a sense capital explains why the book has been beset by problems. lack of supply and the like uncertainty over what i want to contrail will be the main source of that gas and also it requires money many more countries and transit trans. countries so complex to political complexity is in dealing with me and deal with just one source of gas that is russian gas and one supplier which is gas from seoul in some way it's much more convenient to deal with one company. so now because there's a victory for south stream and gas from them well i don't think they'll be popping t
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based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would raise $800 million through tax reform but not by phasing out the upper income bush tax cuts and before the plan was announced, white house press secretary insisted the rates will not make it to the new year. >> he will not sign a bill that extends those tax rates for the top 2 percent. we cannot afford it. it is not wise economic policy. not wise fiscal policy. it would defeat the principle of balance that he has embraced. >> the president wrapped up an hour long twitter session promoting what he called a balanced approach, as far as deficit reduction. >>shepard: is this posturing? >>reporter: well, it is, this great measure. each side wants to blame the other. and not just if we go over the cliff, but if they do reach an agreement, each side wants the other to take the blame for the parts of the ultimate compromise their constituents don't like. right now the negotiations are nowhere, and the white house has not put a serious offer on the
based on the recommendations of the president's deficit reduction commission but the president could disagree. the republicans say the plan would raise $800 million through tax reform but not by phasing out the upper income bush tax cuts and before the plan was announced, white house press secretary insisted the rates will not make it to the new year. >> he will not sign a bill that extends those tax rates for the top 2 percent. we cannot afford it. it is not wise economic policy. not...
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it wasn't a secret he thought we should have a balanced approach to look at the deficit and higher income individuals need to pay more. if we don't ask, everybody else is hit harder. the president is coming off a victory, and it's very clear that on this specific issue the overwhelming majority of the american people support him. so that's a big difference. as we come to the end of this fiscal cliff, republicans have to choose. do they call for $5 trillion in tax increases over the next ten years or are they going to allow the middle class tax cuts to proceed? that's their choice, and i think people like tom cole recognize that it's unsustainable to take the position that nobody gets tax relief because they hold out for folks with 250,000 and over to get this extra tax cut on the portion of their income above 250,000. after all, what the president is saying on that part of your income above 250,000, you're going back to the clinton era tax raites, which is 4 cents on the dollar. >> congressman van hollen, thank you for your time. we'll see what happens next. thank you, sir. >>> we could s
it wasn't a secret he thought we should have a balanced approach to look at the deficit and higher income individuals need to pay more. if we don't ask, everybody else is hit harder. the president is coming off a victory, and it's very clear that on this specific issue the overwhelming majority of the american people support him. so that's a big difference. as we come to the end of this fiscal cliff, republicans have to choose. do they call for $5 trillion in tax increases over the next ten...
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don't think we have a president that is serious about getting our debt under control and getting our deficit, which the federal government spending under control, especially when you understand that we have fha in trouble, we have the post office in trouble, we continue to get closer to this incredible fiscal cliff. and i think that the president should take a case study analysis and look at what president calvin coolidge did and president jfk did, john f. kennedy did when they went in and lowered tax rates and you increase revenues which is exactly what we're talking about. >> were you-- did you feel like it was a bait and switch from president obama from what you'd heard about in the campaign and light on the details, but that's one of the things i've heard from members of congress that they thought, wait a second, that's not at all what you thought was going to happen. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. what you see happening right now, dana, is really the art of politics, versus the science of good policy and i think we need to move away from campaign mode and we need to do the things tha
don't think we have a president that is serious about getting our debt under control and getting our deficit, which the federal government spending under control, especially when you understand that we have fha in trouble, we have the post office in trouble, we continue to get closer to this incredible fiscal cliff. and i think that the president should take a case study analysis and look at what president calvin coolidge did and president jfk did, john f. kennedy did when they went in and...
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the thing i'm sure of is that we got to end up with at least $4 trillion of deficit reduction. some of that's got to come from revenues. i guarantee you the white house isn't going to do a deal unless it has an increase in tax rates for part of that revenue. i'm assuming that the republicans are going to insist that there be more cuts on the health care entitlements than what's been put on the table to date. >> ifill: here's the difference between what we're seeing now and what happens when i put my house on the market. at the end of this year there will be consequences. it's unclear... in the past when these consequences or these deadlines have arisen they've just put them off. that's how we got to where we are today. are you confident, as confident that they will actually come up with a permanent solution before this deadline or that they'll just... >> we can't kick it down the road. that would be disaster. look, this is is the magic moment. we have a second-term democrat president who has put entitlements on the table with special physicianitey. we have a republican speaker
the thing i'm sure of is that we got to end up with at least $4 trillion of deficit reduction. some of that's got to come from revenues. i guarantee you the white house isn't going to do a deal unless it has an increase in tax rates for part of that revenue. i'm assuming that the republicans are going to insist that there be more cuts on the health care entitlements than what's been put on the table to date. >> ifill: here's the difference between what we're seeing now and what happens...
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you cut taxes, you grow the economy, you reduce the deficit. it almost seems like someone who would have tried to run for president maybe on a line like that. surely republicans could win on that platform unless it didn't win. >> exactly. they've all been quick to distance themselves from mitt romney, except they have presented his plan as their own. i guess maybe it was their plan to begin with in the form of paul ryan, and, you know, look, it's just not going to fly with the american people and the days go on. what i really think, if i were giving them political advice, i think tom cole, a representative among them who is probably one of the smarter political tacticians in their party gave them some advice. let's get this over with. let's not be the party that looks like we're only looking out for the top 2%. but that's really, martin, exactly what they look like. the differences here i think to most americans are fairly small. let's keep taxes low for 98% of americans and lets ask the wealthy to pay a little more but it looks like republican
you cut taxes, you grow the economy, you reduce the deficit. it almost seems like someone who would have tried to run for president maybe on a line like that. surely republicans could win on that platform unless it didn't win. >> exactly. they've all been quick to distance themselves from mitt romney, except they have presented his plan as their own. i guess maybe it was their plan to begin with in the form of paul ryan, and, you know, look, it's just not going to fly with the american...
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. >> i think there's going to be a frame work achieved, but not meaningful debt or deficit reduction, no reform to entitlements, and i don't think there's tax reform. there's a deal in form, but i think there's more to get done. >> are we done? >> ask another if you want. >> do they really have to raise taxes? people accepted that's the outcome. >> i think that they need to raise revenue. how they do it, whether it's some tax increases or some limiting of deductions, but it shouldn't be hard to bridge a gap that's wider and wider. >> a matter of what it looks like, a given at this point. >> i think it is. >> higher taxes are coming. doug, thank you. ask as many questions as you want. >> you're generous with your time. >> that's what dagen does when she's here. >> she would be huck -- heckling you for your bad voice today. the supposed middleman in the debt negotiations throwing fire on the talks this week by saying nothing will get done unless republicans agree to raise tax rates on the rich. >> there you go. rich edson in dc with the latest on that. hey, rich. >> congressional republ
. >> i think there's going to be a frame work achieved, but not meaningful debt or deficit reduction, no reform to entitlements, and i don't think there's tax reform. there's a deal in form, but i think there's more to get done. >> are we done? >> ask another if you want. >> do they really have to raise taxes? people accepted that's the outcome. >> i think that they need to raise revenue. how they do it, whether it's some tax increases or some limiting of...
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how are you going to bring down a trillion dollar deficit? i think the democrats are on -- i had to get that off my chest. stuart: gm car and truck sales are up 3%. the stock, dead flat. sales up 3%. that is the car sales numbers coming in today. steve, i want to get back to you here. the democrats say, wait a second, wait a second, you raise taxes on the rich just like the clinton did back in 1992 and you end up with a bill. you have a solid expansion. what do you make up with that argument? >> i hope they do not believe that argument. look, maybe barack obama is right. maybe if you raise these taxes, it will not hurt the economy. [talking over each other] stuart: bill clinton raised taxes and the economy took off. >> there are a lot of things that influence the economy. not just taxes. there are other things. there is no monetary policy, which was great under bill clinton. do not forget that bill clinton did welfare reform. one of the most historic acts over the last 50 years. do not forget that we caught government spending within those ye
how are you going to bring down a trillion dollar deficit? i think the democrats are on -- i had to get that off my chest. stuart: gm car and truck sales are up 3%. the stock, dead flat. sales up 3%. that is the car sales numbers coming in today. steve, i want to get back to you here. the democrats say, wait a second, wait a second, you raise taxes on the rich just like the clinton did back in 1992 and you end up with a bill. you have a solid expansion. what do you make up with that argument?...
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our budget, we have a mess, i inherited a budget deficit of $26 billion. we have cut that substantially. from the mortgage meltdown that occurred because of the bad decisions and this behavior throughout our economy, the revenue in california is up 23%. that is a big number. america, the asset values were destroyed, something like $7 trillion. a lot of that was a bubble. that was popped and resulted -- we have had to manage a difficult situation. even before the bubble popping, there was excess. because the money flows in in a regular amounts, when money is good, everybody feels good. when $14 billion came in, they thought they were king of the mountain and spend it. arnold came in to clean it up. a couple years later, he left town and $26 billion this year. this has been the nature for the last decade, kicking the can down the road. not talking straight. the way it is. the way it is, it is a tale of two cities. there is fabulous wealth and link electronics, inc. model number: pdr-885 software version: 3.0c in some places it would be food or shelter or lov
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the deficit is $1.9 trillion. megyn: mark, the point that i'm trying to get to, is there some arrogance or bias, anything inappropriate about the media being oh focused on the tax debate as opposed to where are the spending cuts? >> i don't think so. this is because there hasn't been any serious proposal for spending cuts and it's true of the republicans as well. you don't see republicans coming out saying they want to cut spending on specific things. the president put forward a plan that included a few spending cuts. now it's the republicans' turn to show what they are willing to cut spending on. megyn: before i go, the president came out with a $400 billion in proposed spending cuts from his last budget. mitch mcconnell came out with spending cuts when it comes to medicare, maybe adjusting the cost of living for social security. but they are too timid because this is an issue on which people vote and no one wants to talk about it. am i wrong? >> here is where you are slightly wrong. there is a framework. paul ry
the deficit is $1.9 trillion. megyn: mark, the point that i'm trying to get to, is there some arrogance or bias, anything inappropriate about the media being oh focused on the tax debate as opposed to where are the spending cuts? >> i don't think so. this is because there hasn't been any serious proposal for spending cuts and it's true of the republicans as well. you don't see republicans coming out saying they want to cut spending on specific things. the president put forward a plan that...
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if we are serious about cutting our deficit we must be having a frank discussion about medicare. the white house and gop have made proal posals.
if we are serious about cutting our deficit we must be having a frank discussion about medicare. the white house and gop have made proal posals.
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and a $500 billion down payment on the deficit and the debt, i think, is actually a nice piece of certainty for business so that they can plan for 2013 and 2014. it will mean an exceedingly weak first quarter next year, but i think throughout the year economic growth will get stronger. david: well, but, michael, on the other hand, sometimes if i'm certain somebody's dead, that won't bring them back to life. sometimes certainty is not necessarily good news. you say that the market is rather than on the negative side rather than on the positive side, and if we do go over the fiscal cliff, you see possibility of negative figures as low as 4%, right? >> well, let's put all this in perspective. i think what i mentioned earlier was the fact that the s&p is up about 6% since november 16th, and we've run into technical resistance with some the previous people mentioned, and i think the market's just in a period now where it could easily pull back a little bit. if you listen to the rhetoric coming out of washington, we had the everybody gave your hugs after the election, now they're throwing out the
and a $500 billion down payment on the deficit and the debt, i think, is actually a nice piece of certainty for business so that they can plan for 2013 and 2014. it will mean an exceedingly weak first quarter next year, but i think throughout the year economic growth will get stronger. david: well, but, michael, on the other hand, sometimes if i'm certain somebody's dead, that won't bring them back to life. sometimes certainty is not necessarily good news. you say that the market is rather than...
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we know we cannot deal with a serious deficit problem in this country as well as meeting our obligation to americans as well as making sure we protect the middle class. so he's put out a serious proposal of revenues and spending cuts and economic growth that does strengthen the middle class and get that economic growth. that's perfectly good starting point. the fact that speaker boehner rejected that, we're in a tough spot right now. what the republican leadership in the house has to do is say look here's what we want to do, here's what we believe we should do. they have to understand that the president won, the democrats gained seats in the house and the senate. the american people have said find that common ground, the beginning of that common ground is make sure we protect the tax cuts for the middle class. make sure we don't hurt the fragile economic recovery in the short term and let's deal with protecting medicare and deficit reduction for the long term. >> there's a piece in the "new york times" talking about the president's new negotiate i want aing style. it said mr. obama scat
we know we cannot deal with a serious deficit problem in this country as well as meeting our obligation to americans as well as making sure we protect the middle class. so he's put out a serious proposal of revenues and spending cuts and economic growth that does strengthen the middle class and get that economic growth. that's perfectly good starting point. the fact that speaker boehner rejected that, we're in a tough spot right now. what the republican leadership in the house has to do is say...
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anything on entitlements, would prefer frankly not to have to do anything on some of these debt and deficit problems. if you look at the numbers, then medicare in particular, will run out of money and we will not be able to sustain that program, no matter how much taxes go up. i mean it's not an option for us to just sit by and do nothing. >> that was president obama in the summer of 2011 speaking the hard truths about entitlements. it did not exactly play well for him then and he's been largely quiet on the issue since, perhaps because for both parties talk of cutting social security and medicare hurts a lot. >> there's a pain point that democrats have to reach as well. it's not just republicans. that both sides have to be able to get to the end of this things and say, yes, the president won re-election but there is nobody that gets away with this thing without feeling pain. >> and there are some on the left who hope to get through this without having to go under the knife. adam green, co-founder of the progressive change campaign says -- yesterday on abc's "this week" congressman keith el
anything on entitlements, would prefer frankly not to have to do anything on some of these debt and deficit problems. if you look at the numbers, then medicare in particular, will run out of money and we will not be able to sustain that program, no matter how much taxes go up. i mean it's not an option for us to just sit by and do nothing. >> that was president obama in the summer of 2011 speaking the hard truths about entitlements. it did not exactly play well for him then and he's been...
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we need to get serious about our deficit and debt that are burying our children's future. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. martha: we have brand-new details on the deadly bus crash that happened in florida. police say the bus driver was confused and lost when he chose the wrong route coming out of miami airport. the top of the bus crumpled after the crash and killed two passengers. it had 32 jehovah's church members on board, they were heading to a conference. bill: if you wash watching "fox news sunday" john boehner described his reaction when the president presented its plan for the fiscal cliff. > >> i said you can't be serious. we have 7 weeks went election and the end of the year and three those weeks have been wasted. bill: flabbergasted, rich. wasting time. three weeks gone b
we need to get serious about our deficit and debt that are burying our children's future. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it mahelp lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just he to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. martha: we have brand-new details on the deadly bus crash that...
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what do we do next to deal with the deficit? the president and tim geithner basically this weekend said we've got plans to cut entitlements by 400 bill or ion 500 billion dollars. that's over ten years. we have a much bigger hole than i think anyone in washington is willing to agree is such a problem. >> lrepublicans are angry the president laid out this plan that they say he knew would just inflame them. >> that's true. >> why toedon't republicans act like big boys and girls and present their own plan about how they specifically want to cut entitlements? isn't that how you negotiate? >> yes, but, of course, they've done that. that's the most curious thing to me. tim geithner said the republicans should come forward with a plan. you know this. over the last two or three years in the house of representatives controlled by republicans, they have passed what's called the ryan budget for three years in a row. it has very substantial entitlement cuts. you've reported on this on cnn. in fact, all the left wing groups had all these ads
what do we do next to deal with the deficit? the president and tim geithner basically this weekend said we've got plans to cut entitlements by 400 bill or ion 500 billion dollars. that's over ten years. we have a much bigger hole than i think anyone in washington is willing to agree is such a problem. >> lrepublicans are angry the president laid out this plan that they say he knew would just inflame them. >> that's true. >> why toedon't republicans act like big boys and girls...
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commissioned by the european union revealed earlier this year that there's a fifty nine billion euro deficit in the spanish banking sector any of the details of this developing story as we get it. other world news now south korea says it's looking to reroute all passenger planes over the yellow sea is to avoid any possible conclusion with daybreak from a long range missile that north korea is planning to launch later this month meanwhile japan is deploying missile interceptors saying they're prepared to down the rocket if it poses a threat insists the rocket will take a satellite into orbit but the u.s. south korea and japan claim it's carrying out intercontinental ballistic missile tests. two officers have died in two more injured in northwest pakistan but an explosion hit a police van the vehicle was patrolling the outskirts of the city of peshawar however it's unclear how the bomb was detonated in cities located in pakistan's volatile tribal region is often targeted by taliban militants. but coming up next an exploration on the dangers of living on the outskirts of the u.s. marine bombing
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budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of
budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of
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colts cut the deficit to five. four seconds left. colts still down five. fourth and ten from the 14 yard line. this is the last play of the game. here's iron eagle with the call. >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps, luck, a little flick, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> peyton who? the lions in absolute shock on the sidelines as time expires. luck throws two touchdowns in the final 2 1/2 minutes to get his team the 35-33 win. colt s improve to 8-4. nobody thought that would happen. just the latest letdown for the lions who lose their third straight. they had the lead in all of those games. >>> the jets hosting the cardinals, what a matchup. mark sanchez desperate for a decent performance. first offensive play of the game. sanchez, off the play fake. i think 101, barnicle, is that when you're in trouble, don't throw a high ball over the middle. kerry rhodes coming down with the easy interception. would only get worse for sanchez. he'd throw two more picks before halftime. in the third quarter, rex ryan had finally seen eno
colts cut the deficit to five. four seconds left. colts still down five. fourth and ten from the 14 yard line. this is the last play of the game. here's iron eagle with the call. >> here we go. final seconds. luck steps, luck, a little flick, donnie avery, he's in! touchdown! indianapolis has done it! >> peyton who? the lions in absolute shock on the sidelines as time expires. luck throws two touchdowns in the final 2 1/2 minutes to get his team the 35-33 win. colt s improve to 8-4....
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and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that might be the long game. the asterisk in history books later. right? the short gain is raising taxes. that really is what everything is focused on right now. and i think, nan, it's fair to say that could be a big problem for republicans. all polls indicate that it's going to be the republicans that hold the bag if you end up not raises taxes on people who are perceived to be very wealthy who could afford it. >> well, there is the -- there are the atmospherics and then there are the economic realities. of course, if you look at a lot of the polling surrounding the election and post election exit polling show that, in fact, president obama was elected primarily because people felt that he was compassionate, that he cares about them. and that's an important quality. but, in fact, they endorsed the
and you're going to look back and have a bar chart of deficits and debt. and there's not going to be an asterisk that says it was the republicans' fault. i think we've got to stop playing poker, work together and understand we're working to save the country. >> that might be the long game. the asterisk in history books later. right? the short gain is raising taxes. that really is what everything is focused on right now. and i think, nan, it's fair to say that could be a big problem for...
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deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to rich. or broaden the base of the tax base. including more people paying taxes. this is a joke on top of joke, andly give you this. entitle reform are good ideas. calling the -- >> dana: i thought bush tax cuts only help the rich. i defended that for eight years. >> eric: get greg in here. bob calls this a joke of a joke. republicans suggest $600 billion in more taxes. >> yeah. >> dana: $800 billion. >> eric: sorry. $800 billion
deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the...
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it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. the majority of that from raising tax rates for the wealthiest americans and still absolute biggest divide between the two sides. no question about it. >> and so when you really look at where we are, democrats want tax rates to go up for wealthier americans. republicans long pushing for changes to entitlement programs and what else is in this republican proposal then? >> reporter: some of that, as well. look at that. $600 billion in what republicans call health savings. we don't have a lot of specifics on it but republican sources say that much of that will come from medicare
it's about $2.2 trillion, they say, in savings to the deficit but on that fundamental as you say key sticking point, it doesn't change anything. they simply do not propose to raise any tax rates. let's just look at some specifics on this tax issue. the house gop counter proposal which came out this afternoon does put out 800 billi$800 billw tax renoouf. nothing on bush-era tax rates. those would continue. just look at that compared to the white house offer which last week which was $1.6...
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equation, besides allowing him to retain his approach, which is continuing to spend and rack up massive deficits and continuing higher taxes without any plan that bears that out. remember that his budget hikes taxes and still spends $47 trillion over the next 10 years. gerri: to that point, you look at the approval rating now going down for the first time since the election at 49 i think it tells you something. maybe american people are looking at this and it looks a whole lot like campaigning to me. it is like the election never happen. we are still campaigning on the campaign trail. today in pennsylvania, talking about what needs to be done. shouldn't he be in the whit house hosting the negotiations himself instead of sending his foot soldier, timothy geithner, the fellow who put together the biggest bailout in american history? talking about someone who is going to be good at negotiating on our taxpayer dollars. i would think that timothy geithner s not the man we met i would agree withyou. this is actually shocking. i'm going to say that the president won, no contest there. can we get past t
equation, besides allowing him to retain his approach, which is continuing to spend and rack up massive deficits and continuing higher taxes without any plan that bears that out. remember that his budget hikes taxes and still spends $47 trillion over the next 10 years. gerri: to that point, you look at the approval rating now going down for the first time since the election at 49 i think it tells you something. maybe american people are looking at this and it looks a whole lot like campaigning...
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programs like medicare but slowing down the growth in the programs because they are the big drivers of the deficit and raising more out of the revenue, out of the tax system. whether you call iterates or reform over whatever you call it, and each those touches the third rail of the parties, we have to get together and say, basically, we have to do something right for the country. if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing that could happen. the market would go up and we would be liking like our future was brighter than a lot of americans think it is today. >>neil: are you smoking anything at all? >>guest: drinking a little coffee. >>neil: quickly, senator, i know you have to go the congressional black caucus has come out with a statement saying, really, leave entitlements alone and focus on hiking taxes. that is the gist of the statement. what do you think of that? >>guest: it does not do it. hiring some people -- higher income people pay a disproportional share of the taxes. and they should. but if you bring the rates back to
programs like medicare but slowing down the growth in the programs because they are the big drivers of the deficit and raising more out of the revenue, out of the tax system. whether you call iterates or reform over whatever you call it, and each those touches the third rail of the parties, we have to get together and say, basically, we have to do something right for the country. if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing...
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decline in their standard of living, while the rich are getting richer, who should pick up the burden of deficit reduction? second of all, in terms of social security, social security hasn't contributed one nickel. >> at all. >> by the payroll tax. so why don't you want to drag social security in? thirdly, these people are talking about, if people can believe it, lowering, lowering tax rates for large corporations. what sense is that? the truth is, what the american people want and they have said in the election, you know, obama did win a major victory and the issue being debated was whether the wealthy are going to start paying their fair share of tacks what poll after poll says do not cut can social security and medicare and medicaid. ask the wealthy and large corporations to start paying their taxes. further, let's not forget, as a result of these rather bad agreements in 2010 and 2011, though i voted against, we've already cut a trillion dollars in programs for working families. >> you're right. the american people have said in the election as well as in the polling, 82% oppose reducing soci
decline in their standard of living, while the rich are getting richer, who should pick up the burden of deficit reduction? second of all, in terms of social security, social security hasn't contributed one nickel. >> at all. >> by the payroll tax. so why don't you want to drag social security in? thirdly, these people are talking about, if people can believe it, lowering, lowering tax rates for large corporations. what sense is that? the truth is, what the american people want and...